Last week I did something very insensitive and presumptuous: I asked successful artists to tell me about the meanest things someone had ever said about their art.
This wasn't just sick curiosity on my part. I was hoping to extract pearls of wisdom that I could share with you, my blog readers. I wanted examples that showed how even talented, successful artists have had their critics, trolls and doubters.
All the artists I contacted, without exception, told me that they had been blessed with encouraging, supportive friends and relatives. About half of the artists told me that they couldn't remember any particularly discouraging encounters. However, other artists were able to share some funny, cringe-worthy, or heartbreaking moments. A theme running throughout all these stories was that these artists chose to use those discouraging words as fuel for their motivational fires.
So if you've ever been told you'd never make it as an artist, or if someone left you a mean comment online...read on, and know that you are in very good company.
Wylie Beckert is an illustrator and fine artist with a love of all things fantasy. Wylie's work has been seen on the covers of ImagineFX and the recent book "Hunters of Chaos." Clients include Simon & Schuster and Annick Press, among others. At the 2015 Spectrum show she won the prestigious Rising Star Award.
"The experience that stays with me even now was with a college professor. (He said), 'You're not only wasting your time here, you're wasting your money. You won't be able to get work once you graduate, you really should consider another career path. I don't want to see you flipping burgers after getting a $200k art school education. If I were you I'd drop out now.' I'm still not sure if he was actually trying to look out for me, or if he was just really mean, or if he was drunk! He was actually a REALLY prominent and successful editorial illustrator, and it really shook my confidence with drawing in general, but especially drawing with ink. Ink is now my favorite medium, but his mean comments kept me away from it for YEARS."
"The experience that stays with me even now was with a college professor. (He said), 'You're not only wasting your time here, you're wasting your money. You won't be able to get work once you graduate, you really should consider another career path. I don't want to see you flipping burgers after getting a $200k art school education. If I were you I'd drop out now.' I'm still not sure if he was actually trying to look out for me, or if he was just really mean, or if he was drunk! He was actually a REALLY prominent and successful editorial illustrator, and it really shook my confidence with drawing in general, but especially drawing with ink. Ink is now my favorite medium, but his mean comments kept me away from it for YEARS."
Jen Bartel is an illustrator and comic artist who specializes in ink and digital work. Jen illustrates the Jem and the Holograms comics from IDW Publishing. Her work has been seen in many Light Grey Art Lab shows, American Illustration showcase, Juxtapoz magazine and many art zines.
Howard Lyon has worked for over 20 years in the video game industry as an Art Director, concept artist and freelance illustrator. His work can be found in products from Dungeons and Dragons, World of Warcraft/Hearthstone, Magic the Gathering and Star Wars.
Angela is a children's book author and illustrator. Her books have been published by Dial, Abrams, Bloomsbury, Candlewick, Roaring Brook, Henry Holt and others. Her book, Maria Had A Little Llama, received the Pura Belpré Illustration Honor from the American Library Association.
"I made the initial mistake of googling some of the bigger projects I worked on after they were published, and quickly found that it's probably better to stick to reading comments on my own social media and leave the rest alone. One such project was a pirate themed card game where I did all the card and box art. It was months of work, and I was very proud of the end result. A guy posted in a public forum that the artwork on the box was overwrought, kitschy, and lacking in taste...it definitely stung. But after a few years of having my work torn apart on the internet, I've toughened up and come to the realization that it doesn't matter. I love what I do, and I'm not going to stop or change my style because of someone else's criticisms."
Lindsay's work has been seen in Spectrum:The Best in Fantastic Contemporary Art, and some of her clients include Wizards of the Coast, Penguin Books, Audible.com, Smirk and Dagger Games, Applibot, and Science Fiction Book Club.
"In a freelancing class in school we were talking about writing contracts. I asked my professor for specific advice since I was working exclusively in hand-cut paper at the time. He started with 'Well, you shouldn't be working in cut-paper to begin with because it's a craft and not art, but...'. I should mention that he gave me good advice and was very helpful as my career started off. But I never forgot his casual dismissal of the style that first made me feel like I had a place in the art world."
Kevin is a freelance illustrator who works in a variety of styles, but specializes in cut paper. His client list includes Sterling Publishing, the New York Times, Barnes and Noble, 20th Century Fox and many more.
"I did have a family member say my art was 'just a bunch of ding-dong shit' when I was a teen, while explaining why I should pursue a different career instead."
"I wasn't a sporty kid. While you could almost always find me roaming around and exploring the woods near my house I just had no interest in organized or competitive sports. I was maybe 10 or 11 and I remember, clear as day, one night my own father saying to me, 'I have nothing to talk about with the other dads at work. You don't play soccer. You don't play catch. What do you do, Cory? You just draw stuff.' It was uncharacteristic at the time and it shocked me. Either way, there's just no way in the world I would do sports. It really was in some respects a dividing line, like, ok, there's no way I'm going to make this guy happy so I'm just going to do my thing. I've heard it said that 'the artist is the child who survived' and you know what, I'm inclined to believe it."
Julie Dillon has been a professional artist since 2006. Her clients include Tor Books, Wizards of the Coast, Simon & Schuster, Penguin Books and many others. She won the 2013 and 2014 Hugo Awards for "Best Professional Artist", and won the Chelsey Award in 2015.
"I wasn't a sporty kid. While you could almost always find me roaming around and exploring the woods near my house I just had no interest in organized or competitive sports. I was maybe 10 or 11 and I remember, clear as day, one night my own father saying to me, 'I have nothing to talk about with the other dads at work. You don't play soccer. You don't play catch. What do you do, Cory? You just draw stuff.' It was uncharacteristic at the time and it shocked me. Either way, there's just no way in the world I would do sports. It really was in some respects a dividing line, like, ok, there's no way I'm going to make this guy happy so I'm just going to do my thing. I've heard it said that 'the artist is the child who survived' and you know what, I'm inclined to believe it."
Cory Godbey's work has been featured in a variety of esteemed annuals and publications including Imagine FX, The Society of Illustrators, and Spectrum, where he won a Gold Award in 2013. He has worked with numerous prestigious companies and publishers, including illustrating a chapter novel tie-in for the movie Cinderella, titled "Have Courage, Be Kind," published by Disney Press.
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Thanks to everyone who responded to my emails and dredged up painful memories for the sake of my blog.
Did you find this helpful or encouraging? Do you have a story about how someone dismissed your artwork? Leave a comment!
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Thanks to everyone who responded to my emails and dredged up painful memories for the sake of my blog.
Did you find this helpful or encouraging? Do you have a story about how someone dismissed your artwork? Leave a comment!
Great blog post and so good to hear successful illustrators also had their own struggles. I definitely agree that when someone tells me I can't do something that it makes me want to try even harder. Thanks for the inspiration, Kelley!
ReplyDeleteThis is fantastic. I am a great fan of your blog and I often share your posts on my FB page. I think you are so inspiring and even though I am an author, not an illustrator, I find I can relate to a lot of your experiences. Keep up the great work! One of these days I hope I can meet you at a conference somewhere. :)
ReplyDeleteThank you so much for sharing my blog, Chelsea! I'm glad that you find it inspiring.
DeleteI have a learning disability that makes for me to process new information twice as slow as the average person. There weren't very helpful concessions when applied to the arts when I was in college, so I rarely brought it up with my professors. A fact that is still true today, I'm a painfully slow producer of art. One professor, also the chair of my department, taught a painting class (outside of his department, funnily enough) confronted me about my progress: "Why is it that you've produced three paintings, and one study 8 weeks into my course? At this rate you will fail. What are you doing with your time? Why don't you just commit suicide while you're at it?" God only knows why I was composed at the time, maybe it was from the shock of hearing a critic as cruel as what I told myself, that I was too numb to process the gravity of that one-sided berating. However, every day I have chosen to live and to produce art among other things has been my answer to those evil remarks. I'm far from being decorated as the artists mentioned in this post and will probably always be twice as far behind, but I'm still of the opinion and knowledge from those that have told me, that their life has been enriched by seeing and owning my art.
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DeleteThanks for this post Kelley.
Delete"Why don't you just commit suicide"???? You're right, those words are just evil. I'm so glad that you recognized them for what they were, and that like the artists in this article you've used them to motivate yourself to keep producing. Keep it up!
DeleteThese stories are all horrifying! Every single one of them is an amazing artist, and I'm glad those situations didn't keep them away from what they love forever. I guess that's the pearl of wisdom... don't give in or up!
ReplyDeleteI did a series of promotional portraits for the characters of "Percy Jackson and the Olympians" for Hyperion Books. It is a job that spanned a few years as the series grew larger in complexity with more than thirty images published so far.
ReplyDeleteI got a comment on my blog once about one the earliest characters I painted for this series. The anonymous (and that's a common thing on internet) person said: "...That kid is not THAT UGLY".
First I was shocked by the tone, then I got angry and then I breathed deeply and took a second visit to that forgotten character, and you know what? He/she was somehow right. That was not my brightest drawing.
I took note but I didn’t write back. He/she didn’t deserve it.
Great blog and great post Kelley!
Thanks for sharing your story, Antonio!
DeleteThank you for the awesome blog post!
ReplyDeletePersonally, some of the worst critiques I have ever received were from my teachers who said I should quit as I am not suited to be an artist. But as I am very rebellious and I want to prove them wrong...also I want to annoy them by clinging to the industry like a pest.. I got better. So as I grew older I grew to appreciate harsh criticism as it means that there is still a room for improvement for me, as a person and as an artist. So thank you to all the critics out there!
That's a very positive attitude, R@ndom!
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ReplyDeleteGood to see you're curating an awesome topic that not everyone talks about it. Bookmarked.
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Thanks for reading, Jorge!
DeleteThis was very encouraging. And some of my favorite artists were told they should stop, that they didn't have "it". I have always wanted to create art, but didn't think I had the skill to draw. This past year I taught myself and was just accepted into an art fair-it's small, in a small town, but three other people liked my stuff! So yeah. Never quit, just keep trying, all that stuff.
ReplyDeleteI'm chiming in pretty late, but reading this--and unexpectedly encountering some of my absolute favorite artists in the list!--has been incredibly inspiring. No one that I can recall has been outright harsh about my work (except perhaps myself in my head), but I am definitely among the folks with parents who discouraged--consciously and unconsciously--the pursuit of an art career. I've been drawing and telling stories since 3, but all my life I heard that I needed to pursue a "real" job, something that would support me and "2.3 kids". Art was a great "vocation", but not a reasonable "avocation". I was an obedient kid, and dutifully pursued biology as a career instead. In the end, though, part of me is glad I didn't go whole-hog on the art early on--I'm not as far along artistically as I might have been, but I also have incredibly rich experiences in the studies of science and biology that now form the foundation of my work. Art and science both let to my current job, and it is a dream come true--so, thanks, anxious parents, for keeping my interests diverse!
ReplyDeleteThanks for writing this, Kelley, and for all your insight--reading your blog makes me glad I've chosen this profession. :)
This was really encouraging! It shocks me, what incredibly unkind and insensitive comments people have received.
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